pinky

On Landrovers... Things last a long while when there knackered!!

I suspect you'll be OK for a good while yet. Defo wants sorting before September though.

hello,
yestuarday i eventually got around to having a look at pinkys breather pipes and found nothing that struck me as unusual untill i took off the breather pipe that runs from the sump up to that black filter thing that comes out of the rocker, it wasnt blocked but it was half full of oil and when i took the pipe off oil continued to come out of the upwards facing connection into the sump

is this supost to happen?

today after coming home from work i got a random urge to attack the checker plate with the wire bush on the drill and the results came out amazing! but when i moved it back to were it normally parks i noticed a suprisingly large patch of oil for the 15 mins it had been parker there. on closer inspection i hadnt refitted the breather pipe ( the one that runs from the sump up to the black thing ) at the top end meaning that alot of oil had come out changing the engine oil level from near full to under half

is this normal if that pipe isnt refittied properly?

i shall bring my trusty yellow bucket to your house andy

cheers kieran

By definition, a breather shouldnt be full of oil, otherwise it would be called a pipe!

Im not 100% confident but I suspect there should only be air in that pipe.

That would certainly explain why your pi**ing oil everywhere!! The question though is why the bottom half of the breather is full of oil in the first place.

How are you determining your correct oil level? With the dipstick or by volume? It isnt unknown for people to use the wrong dip stick, just because it fits! As your engine wasnt originally a 200tdi it is possible you have the wrong dipstick. To be certain, I would drop ALL the oil out of the sump and with the breather off the bottom and fill by volume (as per haynes manual for a 200Tdi (I cant remember how many Litres it is)). Go careful though, as you may loose some oil out of the breather neck - if so, its supposed to be full!

interesting i just swaped my dipstick for my dads dipstick ( his is 200 tdi) but it was differant and when it came out it said my oil level was about 700% above what it should be so i pretty sure that test was unaccurate

in the haynes manual it says 6 litres for it but the picture of the 200tdi engine does not look like what i have, would it be possible that when the engine was swaped some of the old things like the turbo were left in place?

cheers kieran

infact upon studying the two pictures side by side it appears that the dipstick is in the same location as a ""19j engine""

Kieren,
Can you email me a photo of your engine and I'll see what I can find out.

Im pretty sure you have a 200Tdi and not a 2.5 Turbo, though I do remember you have 2.5 Air filter box, brake servo etc etc.

A picture of the sump (side on) would also be beneficial.

im pretty sure it is a 200tdi, i will get some pictures tomorow in daylight,

cheers kieran

me too, but something's amiss somewhere!

there are some pictures on the previous page from the oil leak (page 3)

cheers kieran

Hi Kieran,

Sorry, just got back on the forum after a while.

I think you mentioned she's 21yrs old? and 19J? This points to the engine being a 2.5TD, and your Landy the "County" type.

The "Defender" wasn't introduced until 1990, along with the "new" 200tdi.

So unless yours has had a swop, I'd say a 2.5TD. But the breather pipe is in the wrong place? Has the head been swapped?

Have fun!

i will get some pictures online in a couple of hours when i get home from work,
the engine has been swapped becaus ethe old engine went pop or somthing,
we had trouble identifying what the engine type was when we bought it some people said 2.5 and some said 200tdi i will take some pictures in detail of the engine and breathers and sump.

cheers kieran

kieran wrote:

i took off the breather pipe that runs from the sump up to that black filter thing that comes out of the rocker, it wasnt blocked but it was half full of oil and when i took the pipe off oil continued to come out of the upwards facing connection into the sump

VentureOverland wrote:

By definition, a breather shouldnt be full of oil, otherwise it would be called a pipe!

Is that actually a sump breather, or the oil-seperator drain pipe?

Oh, and on the "What engine is it, actually?" front ... what's the engine serial number indicate?

These things just occured to me while looking for the source of my JTD's new oil leak. (Oil temp sender's cracked. Ho, hum. About due an oil change anyway).

Had another look at your pics, sober , in my humble opinion; I'd say that's a 2.5TD engine, with a what looks like a 200tdi rocker cover on.

Which explains why the breather is on the side and not on top.

Though I could be wrong, having delved into my pockets of knowledge and finding they're not as full as I thought they were!

cheer, its making sense what your saying andy i think you are right about it being a return pipe,

thats not what i want to find out mark

here are the pictures, you like the new under bonnet paint job ?








these two are of the under side of the engine and abit of the sump




i hope these pictures help clear things up,

sorry for the delay in replying today i ended up going to a friends house to play computer games, but when i came out after 6 hours pinky didnt start first time, it seems that the same problem as what happend at abingdon has come back but i never found an answer to it,
all of the wet ness on the pictures is diesel because a injector bolt came very loose spreading diesel all over my dads office car park, sorry dad

cheers kieran

i have just shown the pictures to a guy who rebuilds engines for a living and he is saying, the spill of pipes arnt correct

so i wonder what else the garage who fitted it skimped out on

kieran wrote:

all of the wet ness on the pictures is diesel because a injector bolt came very loose spreading diesel all over my dads office car park

Not veggi oil?

that was sort of oil and used chip fat, you could see exacly where i drove to park on his car park

but now its got a 50/50 mix of new tescos cooking oil and it stinks like dead rotton fish, so you will smell me before you see me on friday

That's better! Tip; don't look at pics sober!

That is a 200tdi, albeit with some modifications.

Nice paint job, but it's time to break the bank and get her to a pro, me thinks, otherwise you'll spend all your time fixing her, but not really curing the problem. (I speak from experience )

Kieran

that would cost money

thats my last resort plan, last night i was speaking to a guy who rebuilds land rover engines for a living and although he took until 1 am to make a decision he said that the spil rail is wrong for a 200tdi and he will get the correct one priced up for me and send me some new injector bolts for 20p each

ill see what effect that has,

thankyou

just got to hope it makes it to leeds and back this weekend

cheers kieran

Dunno boot yer veggie oil, mine smells like a macdonalds.
fed up of mummies cumming up to the car at traffic lights asking for a big mac.

the used cooking oil is the worst for smell i find, put about 10 litres of filtered stuff in a week or so ago went to asda, drove past the entrance door and parked about 100 metres away and all the way back to the entrance all i could smell was coooking oil

LOL

"fed up of mummies cumming up to the car at traffic lights asking for a big mac."

Good luck Kieran!

I like the bonnet, retro orange :afro: when you do that im sure it was red and dieselly on sunday?